One more from Mr. Gleeman

For a baseball guy Aaron's pretty intelligent when he goes off-topic:

How is that a college basketball player can be named "the nation's top amateur athlete" after shooting 3-for-18 and 5-for-21 in arguably the two biggest games of his season? Hell, in the final 10 games of the season J.J. Redick shot 36 percent from the floor while committing 25 turnovers, and his team lost three times. You're telling me he was better than Reggie Bush or Vince Young, let alone athletes from the sports no one cares about?

Amen. 

Comments

[Dawgy1]

CFR, You guys going judge J.J. Redick on (2) games? Get your head out of HP's ass and write something original. If someone from the West doesn't win an award it must be undeserving. He has no credibility because he's such a homer with no objectivity. Don't go down that path man.

[CFR]

Dawgy,

1)I'm not judging him on two games. Read the post again, the person I linked to is judging him on not two, but ten games (in fact his whole career, but the ten games is a good enough window to easily disqualify him as the nation's top amateur athlete).

I happen to agree with the assessment.

2)Look before you leap. Check the timestamps on the posts. I put this up last night, HP's post was this morning. Everything on here is my own creation.

3)You're blind hatred of "The West" colors everything you do on here and other sites. I'd have been just as happy with Bush winning the award as Young---you're making assumptions and you know what people say about assumptions. All three of Bush/Young/Leinart were better, more relevant amateur athletes this season than Redick.

Reddick was a terrible choice for the Sullivan Award. Deal with it.

Here were the finalists:

Seimone Augustus, WBKB
J.J. Redick-MBKB
Vince Young, Matt Leinart, Reggie Bush-CFB
Kerron Clement-Track
Steven Lopez-Taekwondo
Chellsie Memmel-Gymnastics
Bode Miller-Snow Skiing
Laura Wilkinson-Diving

Not the best field around, but it includes some people who certainly dominated their sports.

I'm partial to all three of the football guys, but I'd understand everyone but Augustus and Redick winning the award and not complain. Or Bode Miller, that guy failed miserably at the Olympics and is a disgrace to boot.

[Dawgy1]

I'll tell you like I told HP. J.J. Redick's credentials are impressive. Naismith Award, NABC National Player of the year, John Wooden Award, 2-time Adolph Rupp Trophy, 2-time consensus All-American, AP National Player of the year, ESPN National Player of the year, Basketball Time Player of the year, 2-Time ACC Player of the year, 2-Time ACC Tournament MVP. You maybe should rethink this against a few off-games.

Maybe you need to spend some time downing all the dumbasses who have given these awards if you think they're undeserving.

I don't hate the west, or the pac 10. As for being blind, I can see well enough to know that all I've read on these two blogs has been a lovefest for Bush and Leinart and, a constant belittling of the SEC.

[CFR]

Dawgy,

"I don't hate the west, or the pac 10. As for being blind, I can see well enough to know that all I've read on these two blogs has been a lovefest for Bush and Leinart and, a constant belittling of the SEC"

Clearly you are blind.

I've hit on an incredibly broad range of CFB topics all year. If I wanted to start some Leinart or Bush love-fest I'd create a blog or website and do that, but that's not my interest or motivation.

[Dawgy1]

Just like your buddy HP, you guys must be democrats, when you get called on your dumbass comments, you ease yourself off the subject and create some other debate.

[CFR]

HAHA what does that have to do with anything?

And if you'd been reading me as attentively as you say you have you'd know my politics.

How did I ease off the subject? I stated my $0.02 on the subject in my first response to you as well as my blog entry. At this point what's needed to be said was said and it turns into a tired debate, much as politics goes.

If you want me to respond to your list of awards for JJ that's easy: those are BASKETBALL awards. He may or may not deserve them in basketball, but CFR has close to zero interest in college basketball.

However, when he's in an award contending with top college football players and athletes from other sports, I have a little more authority to pass judgment and the easy judgment is that even compared to the 3-headed Leinart/Bush/Young monster, JJ was entirely undeserving of the award (let alone compared to the other athletes who were finalists).

[peter g]

ok, i don't understand how you can say JJ was not deserving of the top amateur award. i mean, for all reggie bush's greatness, he was making money the whole season illegally...which makes him not an amateur. also, i am a UNC fan, and what JJ did in the games which people around NC see as the two most important games of the season (Duke vs. UNC Part 1 and 2) were impressive seeing as he had more pressure on him there to do well than during the NCAA Tourney. Maybe do some more research about JJ's year and then you can say he wasn't deserving. if you didn't see, in the hardest conference in the nation, JJ was the best scorer, 3 pt shooter, leader and player on the best team...if Duke had won 2 more games even if JJ had played poorly during those 2 games, would you agree he would be deserving? Absolutely you would.