Are we going to get CFR's top teams today?

You are completely off base in the auburn/lsu game. Granted it was low soring...but did you even watch it? These teams were out to kill each other in a game that has HUGE sec west implications. The winner of this game has gone to the SEC championship game 4 out of the last 5 years. These defenses ARE that good. Comming into this game these tow teams combined to give up a total of 17 points in 8 quarters to almighty pac 10 offenses. LSU had not given up a TD since the 2nf half of SEC championship game LAST YEAR. That is 12 freakining quarters. The truth is you are going to see these teams whip up on the rest of their opponents. You like offense, I can appreciate that. You probably like 17 to 10 baseball games as well. I am for a great pitchers duel and a defensive slugfest every once in a while. Keep on knocking the SEC defenses but remember, the SEC dominated the PAC 10 this year in early season..and Auburn will play 4 to 5 top 10 teams this year while USC MAY play 1. War Eagle and War SEC as a true College Football Conference.

What is this, the Jim Rome show?

War Tuscaloosa, OUT!

Er...

Auburn-LSU was boring. Assuming those are two great defenses, we didn't really get to see anything great about either one because neither were challenged by the offenses. Both offenses sat on the ball. How hard is it to stop a run on 1st and 10 when you know the other team is running? When LSU finally opened up the playbook, it was able to move the ball through the air. Only problem was Russel didn't realize you have to actually get into the endzone to score, not just throw a last second pass to the 5 yard line.

That last-second throw was pretty symbolic of how SEC offenses operate.

You guys are right. The SEC offenses suck, I mean LSU average 45 points a game this season comming into this one. And Auburn outscored its opponants 40 to 14. That is some pretty average numbers.

hey homegirl, did you watch the game? it was one of the most physical, competitive and exciting games, FAR superior to the beefsteak/poisonous nut snorefest.

and for all of you assclown homers that think the SEC has no offense, please, open your refrigerator door, stick your head in the path of the door, and slam repeatedly, maybe it will knock some sense into you.

either that or actually watch a few games

i guess this site putting the catholics ahead of LSU tells me all i need to know about the dicktuggers who run this.

Ausome,

Yes, I did watch the game. The real question is: Did you read my comment? Nobody is saying the SEC offenses suck. My comment was that both LSU and Auburn sat on the ball in this game. Both teams were trying to avoid mistakes on offense rather than trying to make plays. That's why the game was boring. Both teams have the athletes to score points, but their respective coaches opted to not even make an effort to do so, until the very end of the game.

I guess it was a physical game. All two-yards-and-a-cloud-of-dust games are.

Nice job on the overreaction though. Next time you should take a deep breath, let things sink in for a minute, try and comprehend what was written, and THEN respond. Now please tell me that neither team sat on the ball, the defenses were just too good!

It seemed to me that the AU O line was getting blown up every time AU tried to pass. those LSU lineman are big and fast. Both secondarys were playing straight up physical man to man, and were able to do it well. Not many zones, just mano y mano and none of the recievers could find space. kinda hard to "open it up" in that kind of enviornment.

BTW I see what you're up to:

http://p209.ezboard.com/fauburnfootballfanforumfrm7.showMessage?topicID=10052.topic

so,

my points are still valid.

Wasn't this a post about icing the kickers?

The SEC is the BEST conference at icing kickers in the country!!! Pac 10 kicker icers SUCK!!!!

Heh.

"That last-second throw was pretty symbolic of how SEC offenses operate."

No offense intended, but what the hell does that mean? Does that mean PAC-10/WAC/great offensive teams always score on their last second throws, but the SEC teams do not?

I know you don't like the SEC, or the style of play in the SEC, but it causes you to make senseless statements like the one above, and the one about the LSU-Auburn game being the worst of the day.

As an SEC fan, I can admit that criticism is often warranted, but your constant negative drumbeat drowns out any legitimate criticisms you might have. Just my opinion.

You're interpreting that too literally.

The point was what kind of an offense with a chance to win a close game like that with a quarterback with that kind of arm throws the ball to the five yard line?

It's hilariously symbolic of the lack of offensive know-how and aptitude to not make an effort to get into the end zone with the game on the line like that.

Lost in the field position, no turnovers, solid punting and kicking stuff is the need to you know... score touchdowns once in a while.

I'm sure teams from other conferences have made similarly dumb plays at the end there, but the point is it's out of character for them, where it just makes perfect sense to happen in a high profile SEC game where the offenses have done nothing of significance all day.

Let's take a look at the Cal - USC game in 2004. Big game, the two best teams in the conference that year. The final score was 23-17, which was the lowest point total for either team in a game during the season. That's another example of when you get two good teams together that are closely matched, defense takes a bigger role, teams play more conservative than they normally do, and just a few plays make a difference between a win and a loss.

Cal drove the ball inside the USC 10 in the final moments, here's what happened:

C 1-G U09 Rodgers,Aaron pass incomplete to Smith,Noah.
C 2-G U09 Rodgers,Aaron sacked for loss of 5 yards to the USC14 (Wright, Manuel).
C 3-G U14 Rodgers,Aaron pass incomplete to McArthur,Geoff.
C 4-G U14 Rodgers,Aaron pass incomplete to Makonnen,J..

Cal lost the game because they could not score in 4 attempts inside the ten. Using your logic, this series shows the offensive ineptitude of not only Cal, but the entire Pac-10. Aaron Rodgers can't complete a 9 yard pass? What kind of high-powered offense can't get 9 yards in 4 plays? Man, those Pac-10 offenses are really overrated.

Marty,

What you neglect to mention is that both teams took their shots in that game. Cal's quarterback set an NCAA consecutive completions record and moved them up the field all day. USC's defense has always been one that tightens up in the red zone and you have to score from 30 yards out or things get very difficult.

Cal couldn't make plays downfield against USC's secondary and took its chances dinking and dunking.

During those last four plays Cal threw INTO THE END ZONE three times and got sacked on another try. There was nothing symbolic of a bad offense there, two of those throws were a hair away from being completions and game-winning touchdowns. There wasn't a final play where the ball was throw to the five yard line, ya know?

USC was intercepted in the end zone on another drive that would have been a touchdown to probably make that game a 30-17 overall score.

Clearly both defenses had good days but the offenses found ways to score and take their shots including on Cal's final attempt at scoring.

CFR,

You apparently missed the sarcasm. I was making a point by pointing to a few plays in a game and trying to indict a team and a whole conference based on it. That's exactly what you did regarding the Auburn - LSU game.

Like I've said a couple of times now, you obviously dislike the style of play in the SEC, and you use every situation to say "Ha! See, I told you they stink!" To me, that's akin to political hacks you see on TV who see only one side of every situation and find something, no matter how ridiculous, to bash the other side.

This will hopefully be my last post on this thread -- we can take up the discussion next week on a different thread!