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Top Teams 2008

After Week Seven

  1. Alabama
  2. Penn State
  3. Texas
  4. Oklahoma
  5. Florida
  6. USC
  7. Georgia
  8. LSU
  9. BYU
  10. Missouri
  11. Ohio State
  12. Oklahoma State
  13. Texas Tech
  14. Utah
  15. Kansas
  16. USF
  17. North Carolina
  18. Miami
  19. Boise State
  20. Georgia Tech
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Wednesday
12Sep2007

CFR's 2007-2008 Top Teams List: Week Two

As always, these are power rankings.

  1. USC - Precarious lead here and I don't think they're going to perform all that well against Nebraska either.  Hmm ...
  2. Florida - Like USC, feeling the heat of red-hot Oklahoma and LSU.  The Tebow show's been flawless so far against the lighter part of the schedule.
  3. Oklahoma (+1) - We've seen this before, but I'm still impressed.  Sam Bradford looks like a revalation at quarterback.
  4. LSU (+2) - Flawed, but so far have been able to overwhelm, intimidate and obliterate.  There's so many options in that offense, they get more out of their skill guys than an equally loaded USC so far.
  5. West Virginia (-2) - Shaaaaaky defense, again.  Got their act together late in the third quarter which counts.  Almost-unstoppable over four quarters.
  6. Texas (-1) - Offense and defense showed up late against TCU.  One very good quarter of football out of eight so far, though.
  7. California - The game against a solid Colorado State wasn't as close as the score indicated, but still disappointing.  Classic letdown, perhaps?
  8. Louisville - I've seen Middle Tennessee explode before so last Thursday's defensive no-show wasn't shocking.  It was unbecoming, though.  Tenuous hold at No. 8 here.
  9. UCLA (+3) - There's some kvetching in the UCLA camp, but this team's coming along and held firm late against a good, hard-charging BYU team.
  10. Arkansas (+3) - I'm not convinced the defense is as good as last year's group, but that offense will keep them in - and win - ballgames.
  11. Georgia Tech (NEW) - Don't fail me now ...
  12. Nebraska (+3) - Shaky against Wake Forest, but that misdirection attack is tough on the unfamiliar.  They may have had their eyes on USC a little bit as well.
  13. Tennessee (+1) - Don't fail me now ...
  14. Hawaii (NEW) - Shaky on the Mainland and they've got another Lower 48 game this week.
  15. Penn State (NEW) - Slowly climbing, but that offense is going to sputter a handful of times this year.  Can the defense legitimately carry this team?

- - - Lurking - - -

In no particular order: Wisconsin, Rutgers, Boise State, Georgia, South Carolina, Oregon, Boston College, Ohio State, Rutgers

- - - Out - - -

Miami, TCU, Oregon State, Michigan

- - - Are they for real? - - -

Cincinnati, Washington, USF 

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Did you know that in the last 5-years, Middle Tennessee has had 16 games where they put up 35+ points on opponents. I don't know which game you are talking about CFR, but the one I really remember was a couple of years ago when they hung 40 on Missouri but still lost 41-40.
September 13, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterBaseball Savant
LSU flawed? How so? I guess Florida giving up 31 pts to Troy isn't "flawed".
September 14, 2007 | Unregistered Commenterpatrick
Savant,

I think I remember them playing Kentucky recently? They exploded on them for about three quarters. Few other games as well, they're sneaky offensively, can be dogs one day and great the next.
September 14, 2007 | Registered CommenterCFR
Patrick,

That LSU offensive line is one of the shakiest lines on a top five team (that should stay in the top five) I've seen in the last few years.

They're not your classic 200 yards/game rushing team despite the talent and SEC run mentality. Weird. Hester's versatile but I don't think he's actually all that tough of a runner, can't really wear teams down consistently.

Defensively, those linebackers are fresh meat against any smart offense. They fly to the ball but are awful in coverage. You can still get away with that in the SEC, but that's slowly changing. You'd get killed in the Pac-10 with those linebackers but luckily the front four are good enough to cover for them (for now).

And, there's Les Miles. I'll simply be shocked if he ever wins a national title. There's already a pattern of one or two inexplicable losses each year.

I really like LSU's player development on offense so far (Doucet quietly went from a solid third guy to an NFL-ready receiver, LaFell was always just an athlete but he's clearly put it together some this year, etc.), Dorsey's amazing, Flynn is clearly a fine leader, etc. But there's flaws, just like any team.

The fact that they're flaws in coaching, offensive line and coverage ability of the linebackers is troubling and could fell them once or twice down the road assuming someone out there is ready to exploit them.
September 14, 2007 | Registered CommenterCFR
Your power rankings took a hit with your #'s 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 and 13 teams losing this week.
G-Tech, Nebr. and Tennessee going down isn't a huge shock at all but you have to love the unpredicability of College football.

Looking forward the the new look of your power rankings this Wednesday.

Question for you on your power rankings philosophy; Is a loss this early in the season, no matter who it is to and how well the game is played, enough by itself to knock a team out of your top 10 or 15?

I myself have a problem keeping any team with a loss in the Top 10 or even the Top 25 when it's mid-September. I figure if the team is really Top 10 material they will work their way back towards the top as the season progresses.

I just see alot of one-loss teams in the AP Top 25 at this point and I'm feeling that it's based upon "resume" as you so aptly put it rather than performance.
September 17, 2007 | Unregistered Commenterledtrojan
That's college football for ya.

Not sure how to best answer your question ... I'm more than willing to keep a team in here in spite of a loss if what I've seen from them merits them staying. I didn't move Tennessee much after the loss to Cal. I still think they're a team with a good but twice-shaken defense and one of CFB's better quarterbacks. That's a good team that faced two buzzsaws on the road and I'm a little nervous about bumping them too much.

If their schedule had been the usual SEC cupcake fest instead of @ Cal/@ Florida, they'd easily be here which makes me want to keep them here GIVEN that:

I like what I've seen from Ainge and a greatly improved Foster, several really good players on defense and I trust both coordinators to salvage this thing.

I guess I see it slightly different. Where you say:

"I figure if the team is really Top 10 material they will work their way back towards the top as the season progresses."

I will say:

A rose is a rose is a rose is a rose, until proven otherwise. Schedules are tremendously uneven in the game which is why I give some slack to teams with unusual circumstances, who have played some people or at least some differing styles that can throw them off, and demonstrate something (whether it's good line play, or good coaching, good scheme, good quarterbacks, team speed, run stopping ability, some combination of all that) instead of just flopping.

Tennessee was slaughtered by Cal and Florida, but I look at what they essentially are and think that's still a solid team who was unfortunate enough to play two incredibly hot offenses on the road, one of those was a revenge game, the other a statement game. Do I think Tennessee's top five material after all of that?

Heck no, but I'm comfortable saying they're better than 90% of the ACC, Big Ten, etc.

Power rankings are a good mix of "week to week" rankings as well as answering "who are you?". I'm trying to get at just how good a team is at that point in the season. When it's early like this and there's all kinds of variance, I lean a little more heavily on preseason thoughts about the team to balance out all the noise.

At the end of the season these should be solid as always, because I'll have matched preseason thoughts about the teams with their actual on-field performance and ABILITY and evaluated them relative to their peers.

It's hard to compare to peers right now because things are so haywire (which always happens early in the season). Other than some "I told you so" teams like Virginia Tech, who is to say a Wisconsin can't rebound from two shaky weeks? Who is to say much of anything about USC after their strange performance against Idaho. We know certain things about teams before the season and they tend to either confirm or deny those thoughts after 12+ games. These rankings bounce around but gradually come to reflect a lot of thought on what they are, what they're doing, what they can do and can't do and whether they can or can't do it against team X, Y and Z and where teams X, Y and Z themselves stand among their peers.

I guess I'm saying it's early and I'm just observing (A LOT) and trying to figure out what it is each team really is about. That's more important than the W's and L's right now. I respect just how haywire things can go in this game and try not to overpunish teams for having bad days or getting into a bad matchup. But I will cast a suspicious glance if I see inexcusable bad line play, or inconsistency that doesn't tame itself, or whatever other issues pop up.
September 17, 2007 | Registered CommenterCFR
Very thoughtful response CFR -- thanks for taking the time and effort.

I find it really fun, when I have the time, to compile Top 20 lists throughout the season. I for one love putting together preseason rankings and enjoy the polls very much.

The many thoughts you talked about above are the major reason that I believe human subjective opinion (polls) is so much preferable to the computer rankings.

Quoting CFR, "... trying to figure out what it is each team really is about. That's more important than the W's and L's right now. I respect just how haywire things can go in this game and try not to overpunish teams for having bad days or getting into a bad matchup. But I will cast a suspicious glance if I see inexcusable bad line play, or inconsistency that doesn't tame itself, or whatever other issues pop up."

While computers can evaluate a huge amount of data, they just can't watch games and make evaluations based upon the criteria you've listed. Computers definately are great for what they do and what they add to the evaluation process.

But they aren't able to "cast a suspicious glance."

Here's to the polls and the power rankings and I wish the voters in the polls spent just a fraction of the time CFR does in evaluating his power rankings.
September 18, 2007 | Unregistered Commenterledtrojan
It's a great exercise. It forces me to think just a little bit more than I already do about the teams, part of the reason I even do them.

Thank you for the kind words.
September 18, 2007 | Registered CommenterCFR

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